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Offline pavroo

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Plans for 2017
« on: February 05, 2017, 04:35:36 pm »
Releases of the 2017 - two lines:

Stable line - based on Debian stable "Stretch":
4.6  - after the Stretch become stable
4.7 - about 6 months after

Main (testing) line - based on Debian testing "Buster':
5.0 - about one month later, after the Stretch become stable
5.1 - August
5.2 - December

To do:
1. Change the 'live-installer' to Calamares
2. No more ideas in this moment, add yours to the discussion

And...
We need a new code name and new artwork (wallpaper, and theme (optional)) for Sparky 5.
The code name should be around the astronomical objects as before.
Place your suggestions below.
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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 10:43:38 pm »
Hello, I've been using SparkyLinux for over a year (Xfce / Debian Cinnamon (with Sparky Repos) and KDE) (Multiboot).
First, many thanks for this great distribution.  :) :)
My question is:
What happens with the sources.list and the special sparky repos when Stretch becomes stable ?
All URL's are on testing (not "Stretch")
That would mean that I would change after the release of Stretch automatically to Buster.
Is this supported by SparkyLinux?
Or do I have the URL's first switch to Stretch or Stable?

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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2017, 03:24:44 am »
Oort - For the Oort clouds way past Neptune-Pluto  - about 250000 a.u.  Sparky is far out and cool (or would that be kewl now)

Kuiper - for the closer in belt.

Stars  Deneb - a slight verbal inversion of the majority of our sources.   It is the tail of the swan and quite bright.
           Fomalhaut - cause it sounds cool. Is there something fishy about us using a star from Pisces. 
           Denebola - not to be confused with Deneb  - A lion (Leo) of a star. 

These days, living north of a certain country, the astronomer  Giordano Bruno comes to mind.  Tycho Brahe died in 1601 in his bed.  Giordano died in a pryo-crucifixion, his tongue staked to the roof of his mouth in 1600 and hundreds paid gold currency to watch his swan song. He would not recant his beliefs, one being the Copernican belief that the Earth revolves around the sun. 

As is gets hotter, especially in the Arctic, and science gets tossed into the garbage dumpsters (in Canada under Stephen Harper) and scrubbed from computers in the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Bruno is a an example to us all and a rallying cry. 

He does have a lunar crater and and asteroid also named after him.  Peace out.
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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2017, 01:01:11 pm »
@geier22
Sparky based on Debian testing never change its repo name, always use "testing".
There is also Sparky "stable" repo already created.

So Sparky based on Debian stable "Stretch" uses Sparky "stable" and "testing" repos.
Sparky Based on Debian testing uses Sparky "testing" repos only.

To make sure that apt will use correct version of Sparky packages, if different versions available in Sparky stable and testing repos (for stable only) - the preferences file manages it. It is provided by 'sparky-apt' package, different for Sparky 'stable' and 'testing'.

Debian's repo of Sparky based on the stable "Stretch" have to point to Debian's "stable" or "stretch" repos.

So you do not have to do anything manually now.
Just keep your installation up to date.

Releasing Sparky 4.6 based on Debian stable Stretch, I will post how to turn yours existing Sparky based on 'testing' Debian into Sparky based on 'stable' Debian.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2017, 06:32:24 pm by pavroo »
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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2017, 01:04:58 pm »
My propose of the 5th Sparky code name is Nibiru.

Nibiru, from ancient Sumerian texts, is a planet that our creators came from and that passes into our Solar System every 3600 years.
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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2017, 01:50:39 pm »
Thanks for the information provided pavroo. Really helpful since I plan to keep a stable Sparky system running as one of my main machines.

I am 100% ok with any of the above mentioned name suggestions.

Will there still be a 32-bit Sparky release in the future? Just asking out of curiosity, since there are several distros that are planning to drop 32-bit. Thank you. :)
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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2017, 06:33:13 pm »
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Will there still be a 32-bit Sparky release in the future?
It only depends on Debian moves.
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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2017, 07:30:04 pm »
^Ok thanks again pavroo. Then I am safe for Stretch. :) After Stretch I will have replaced my last 32-bit machine. Well that is plan A... and plans have a tendency to change. ;D

Anyway, Debian is quite conservative, and universal, so my guess is that they will probably be one of the last to drop 32-bit. :)
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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2017, 08:58:50 pm »
@ pavroo. Thanks for the answer. Of course I want to keep the testing branch.
I was a bit irritated about this announcement:

Main (testing) line - based on Debian testing "Buster':
5.0 - about one month later, after the Stretch become stable
5.1 - August
5.2 - December

I was concerned that after the release of Stretch  something "not compatible" could happen through updates in this month.
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My propose of the 5th Sparky code name is Nibiru.
A nice name for the new testing branch :) :)
« Last Edit: February 06, 2017, 09:02:04 pm by geier22 »

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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2017, 09:14:19 pm »
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I was concerned that after the release of Stretch  something "not compatible" could happen through updates in this month.
You right.
The transfer from testing Stretch to stable Stretch has to be done as soon as possible, before Debian devs move new packages to testing repos. So the new 4.6 iso images have to be created sooner. 
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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2017, 11:31:02 pm »
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Will there still be a 32-bit Sparky release in the future?
It only depends on Debian moves.
According to debian developers team, the 686 pae version will be the only 32-bit version available for stretch.

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Re: Plans for 2017
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2017, 12:11:23 pm »
So I will keep building Sparky's kernel for 686 non-pae as long as I can.
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